. . There we are.. . Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.. . It is June already.. Thank you.. . First of the month.. Thank you for being here.. . We really appreciate it.. . It looks like we've got a nice group. of folks from around the world.. . I'm so excited.. . I can't wait to talk about this topic.. . I've had a conversation with a couple. . of knitters, and they're. excited about it as well.. . So we've got lots of We've got folks here.. . We've got folks from all over the place.. . Oh, put the map already up.. . Pauline is here, and Joan from Tucson.. . We've made it.. Thank you, Hope.. . I'm glad you're here.. . Marie-jo from France,. Susan from Oklahoma, Tuala.. . Sorry if I mispronounced her name.. From Finland.. . Oh, my gosh.. . Maryanne from Minnesota,. Darlene from Ontario, Royanne from Toledo.. . Oh, my gosh.. . Matthew from Boston,. Sue from Hot, Hot, Hot Phoenix.. . Welcome, everybody.. . We've got a great topic to talk about. . today, and hopefully we won't. have any more tech problems here.. . Let me go to here.. . I thought I had it all together.. . Let's take care a little. bit of business here first.. . We're not going to have. a live here in July.. . I'm going to take a little bit of time off. in July, and we're going to spend some. . time thinking about what's. next for Knit It Now.. . We'll be celebrating our birthday. . next month,. which is just absolutely amazing.. . I was looking back at some. dates here earlier.. . We've been doing lives here since .. . Unbelievable, just absolutely. unbelievable how fast the time goes.. . I think you probably feel the same way.. . So we will not be having a live in July.. . However, in August,. we'll have a special guest.. . Susan Lezire is here visiting.. . We'll be here visiting with us.. . If you don't know Susan,. . she is the developer of a software. called Garment Designer.. . And it's her Cotianil is the name. of her company, Cotianil Software.. . Susan is a fashion design. professor at the university level.. . She knows her stuff about fashion,. . flat pattern drafting,. sewing, and machine knitting as well.. . Her software can be used. for both sewing and knitting.. . And again, she really,. really knows her stuff.. . She makes it so easy to create your own. . patterns, your own knitting. or sewing patterns.. . And she makes it so you can't make a bunch. of booboo's, which is really great.. . She really locks it down so. that you can't do dumb things.. . And you can end up with a pattern. that is definitely correct and usable.. . So Susan's really personable.. . I know she'll be talking. about her software.. . She'll probably be talking about fashion.. . She spends a lot of time in Italy.. . I hope she'll share a little. bit of that with us as well.. . She spends part of her. time there in Italy now.. . So this is really exciting to see what. she's got going and what she can see.. . I think she's in.... . I'm not going to guess what city she's in.. . But anyway, so Susan's coming in August.. . So we'll know nothing in July.. . Susan's coming in August.. . And then we'll kick off. for knitting season in September.. . And also in the meantime,. we will be having our office hours this. . month in the two Saturdays,. the June and June .. . If you haven't joined us in office hours,. they are open to members only.. . And it's a way for us to talk. about machine knitting.. . We use a Zoom group,. so everybody gets to see each other.. . And we talk about machine knitting.. . The topics are generally. suggested by knitters.. . We prefer that you submit some questions. or topics, whatever, in advance.. . Let me prepare a little bit so we can have. an intelligent conversation about that.. . We also have questions come. up during the office hours.. . And we've got people who are making. . suggestions about topics and sharing. the things that they're doing,. . their successes, and maybe. they're not such successes.. . Anyways, we have a really. good time at Office Hours.. . So hopefully you can join us.. . It's knittednow.. . Com/officehours.. . So Maure made it from Ontario.. Sherry is here.. . Thank you, Sherry.. . Joy from sunny France.. . That's great.. . I think we've got a lot of sun in a lot. of places right now,. . except for these places that are. getting all this terrible weather.. . Whatever, we won't go there.. We'll forget about that.. . We'll see the map in a minute.. . Remind me, Karen, we'll take. a look when everybody gets here.. . All righty.. . Today, we want to talk. about ditching the ribbing.. . This is a favorite pet peeve of mine.. . You really don't have to put ribbing. . at the hems in the cuffs. of every sweater you make.. . I've never understood that.. I don't know.. . I guess maybe it's generational.. I don't know.. . Maybe it's geographic.. . I don't know what it is.. . But adding ribbing,. so many of us don't have ribbers.. . So many of us don't knit by hand or. don't want to knit ribbing by hand.. . And certainly, I don't know how many. people, and I know there's a lot of you. . who do it, who actually hand manipulate. ribbing just because they want that look.. . But you do have some options.. . We've got lots and lots of options for,. . in my opinion, prettier finishes. to our sweaters than ribbing.. . So let's think about ditching. the ribbing and explore some hems today.. . So. We. . do have an entire classroom that's called. Hems and Edges, and that's our classrooms.. . We pull everything together that we can.. . There's so much material after years. on the site about different topics.. . Our classrooms are a place for us to pull. . it all together from replays of the live. events to courses, to the videos,. . to patterns, anything having. to do with a specific topic.. . So let's go to Knit It Now right now.. . And you should be seeing. my screen, I hope.. . Yes.. . We go to learn, we go to Classrooms.. . Down here, we've got a classroom. called Hems and Edges.. . Here it is.. . So as you can see, there's a ton. of information here about hems and edges.. . We'll talk about some of it today,. but I really encourage you to take a look. . and explore this. classroom when we're done here.. . So from basic hems to Pico Hems to easy,. easy, easy rolled hems,. . which I give you permission to just let. the hem roll, but that's. . probably another subject, to mock ribbing,. to getting fancy, to curved hems.. . We'll talk about some of these again. . today, and we'll talk about a new feature. that we're offering is called a challenge.. . So Tina said,. There's so many possibilities for the hem,. . but struggle to find nice solutions at the. end of the knitting or on the arm hole.. . Well, Tina, there's something you could do. is just go ahead and do a pretty hem,. . just a hem piece, and then attach. it to that arm hole, right?. . So create the piece, rehang the arm hole,. and then hang that piece.. . So if you're doing, say, a picohem,. . you You could actually do. a picot hem around your arm hole.. . Just something to think about.. . So the first one I want. to talk about is basics hems.. . What is a hem?. . Think about hems as in sewing, the bottom. of your pants, the bottom of a skirt.. . You take the fabric, you fold. it over, and you make a hem.. . You've got two layers of fabric. and a nice, finished edge.. . So This right here is going to be sloppy.. . I need to do something with that edge.. . I'm going to fold it. over and make some a hem.. . It can be pretty, it can be plain,. it can be fancy, whatever.. . Hems, you're going to turn it over.. . Now, in this diagram here,. . I mentioned garment tension. minus one and garment tension.. . Something to think about when you're doing. . hems is you're taking. two layers of fabric.. . No matter what the fabric is,. whether it's sewing or knitting,. . you're going You're going. to have two layers of fabric.. . You're going to have some thickness there.. . So it's something to consider. . that you might end up with a hem. that's wider than your garment.. . You're going to have a little bit.... . It's going to be wide and wonky,. and that hem may actually flip out.. . Those are two things that we really need. to be careful of when we're creating hems.. . And really, the only way to tackle. that problem is practice.. . Try a couple of different things,. and we'll make some suggestions here,. . and there are some suggestions. in the classroom as well.. . So one of the ways is. to change your tension.. . So you're going to knit the first part. . of that folded over part of your hem. at a tighter tension than the garment.. . It's going to pull that hem in, keep it. from flipping, and not make it as wide.. . There are some other things that you can. . do, too, but it's just something to keep. in mind whenever you're doing any hem.. . So basic hems, basic, basic, basic This. all came from one of our office hours.. . A knitter who had been knitting for a long. time said, I always do my hems XYZ way.. . And she said,. I was making a picot that was following. . a pattern, and the pattern. told me to do something else.. . She said, What was the difference?. . Why would I change what I do all the time?. . And basically the answer was,. Do what you want.. . That's always my answer.. . It's like, You're the knitter,. you do what you want.. . But the better thing is to do is. to try some of the different methods.. . So, yeah, you use one method all the time.. . Why don't you try the method. that was suggested in the pattern?. . Just on a little piece of knitting. and see what it looks like.. . So we put up a challenge for you. to try three different basic hems.. . We're calling them our. Skill Builder Challenges.. . I'm hoping to do more of these.. . Just really quick, quick cast on,. knit a little bit, cast on,. . knit a little more, and compare challenges. so that you can Try some different things.. . I don't care if you've been. knitting for years.. . There's always something new to learn.. . And sometimes you find something better. than what you've been doing in the past.. . What she always did was. scrap and revel cast on.. . So we cast on with scrap yarn,. . knit a row of ravel cord,. and then started knitting her hem.. . So then she had all those live stitches.. . She would pick up those live. stitches and hang her hem.. . That's one way of doing it.. . Another way of doing it is to use.... . I think the pattern told. her to do an E-wrap cast on.. . So she'd E-wrap cast on, knit her hem,. and then pick up those E-wraps.. . Now, there's a video here in this. . challenge that you can see, and there's. a difference the way it's going to look.. . By the time you turn. . that hem in on this side, you're going. to see quite a bit of difference.. . Which one do you like better?. . You won't know until you try.. . Then there's another basic hem I'd like. . you to try, which is the Every Other. Needle cast on, and this reduces the bulk.. . I talked about the fact that our. hems are two layers of fabric.. . Well, if you reduce some of the bulk right. . here at this pickup point,. it lays flatter and really looks pretty.. . However, there are some little tips. . and techniques that you need to think. about when you're doing that particular. . type of hem that every. other needle cast on.. . So watch the video. and please try it yourself.. . It's my goal is to get you to try these. . things so that you can. see the differences.. . There's so many different. ways of doing things.. . I never do it that way.. . Well, why don't you ever do it that way?. . Maybe you never learned how.. . Try something new, something different.. . Sheryl Ann from St.. Petersburg.. . Welcome.. And Christopher.. . Welcome, welcome.. . Tina says, I like the every. other needle cast on for the hem.. . Liking P co-hems is a great solution,. . but which tension do you use. for the every other needle?. . One of the challenges with the every other. . needle cast on is the fact that if you. knit over every other needle,. . it's going to be longer than if. you're knitting over every needle.. . If you're knitting all the needles,. . So that's one that you really have. to practice at every other needle.. . I generally will knit one or two rows less. . on the inside of the hem. than the outside of the hem.. . That way the hem will turn and you don't. If you have it too long, then it's a mess.. . So it's one of those. things you have to try.. . Titen down your tension on the inside. . of the hem and maybe knit one or even two. rows less on the every other needle side.. . Hope says, I like the flat picohem,. and I'd like to mimic it for the band.. . What would you recommend?. . As I mentioned before,. cast on, knit with waist yarn, right?. . And knit that band, form that band,. . hang the hem, in a row, then scrap off. or put it on a garter bar if you'd like.. . Rehang your garment edge and then pick up. the band, pull the band through and bind. . off so you'd end up having that picot. edge on the edge of maybe a cardigan.. . I think that would work.. . We'll talk about picots in a minute.. . Okay, fancy hems, picos.. . Picos talk about having just a little bit. . of loopies or a little bit of. a feminine touch at the bottom of a hem.. . And these are done in a couple of ways.. . The first way is just. to transfer every other needle.. . So you start the first part of your hem,. . you start knitting that first part of your. hem, and then for your turning row,. . transfer every other needle. and create some eyelids.. . Then put all your needles. back in work, finish your hem.. . Those eyelids It's then create those picos. and that nice feminine edge.. . That's one way of doing picos,. one way of doing a picohem.. . Another way of doing a picohem. is a best-ever picohem.. . Now, I've got skill builder challenge here. on this slide, and my apologies,. . I didn't get it finished,. but it's coming, so stay tuned.. . I will have a challenge for these. . three specific fancy hems that you. can try along with the basic ones.. . The best ever picohem,. I was going through that one this morning,. . and it's a little bit of. brain power with this one.. . And I don't mean to discourage anybody,. but you're transferring stitches,. . and then you're. transferring stitches again.. . So this best ever Pico hem,. it's beautiful.. . It's got a lot more picot to it,. a lot more lacy look to it than the basic. . picot, but it's one that's. really worth trying.. . And I'll have the challenge up.. . And there is actually a video. about it in the learning library.. . Let's see, we're in the. classroom and picohem's.. . Easy feminine touch, here it is.. . Here's all three of them.. . The best ever picohem, the flat picohem.. . And the third one is a picoh and eyelid. . hem, which you're combining,. having little holes above that hem edge.. . Usually do it small, just over a few rows.. . Again, a very, very pretty. little hem that's very feminine.. . It also can be a little bit wider than. . your garment if you're working. just in straight stock and add.. . So you may want to consider.... . Tina, I will address. that in just a minute.. . You may want to consider there is a video. in here that's Perfect Designer Hems.. . I'd really encourage you to look at this. . one because this is going. to prevent that flipping.. . It's going to prevent your hem. being wider than your garment.. . This is based on a technique. that Bonnie Triola introduced me to.. . And basically, you're knitting your. hem separately from your garment.. . You can just cast your garment. . on with waist yarn and ravel cord,. knit your garment,. . turn it around and then pick up that hem. and finish the hem in the other direction.. . And you're going to be reducing the number. . of stitches so it's not as. wide and it doesn't flip.. . The other thing that you can do is create. . your hem over X number number of stitches,. maybe % less than you need for your. . garment, % less stitches. than you need for your garment.. . Create your hem and then cast. on that %, those stitches.. . Increase, I'm sorry, increase.. . So you're ending up with your hem at one. width, one number of number of stitches,. . and then your garment is going to be. at a different number of stitches so the. . hem pulls in a little. bit and doesn't flip.. . So take a look at perfect designer hems.. . No matter what hem. technique you're looking at,. . perfect designer hem probably will. be a solution for any flipping.. . Or a lot of times people will say,. Hung hems are ugly.. . Well, the reason is they haven't taken. into consideration tension,. . and maybe something like this,. reducing your stitches.. . Marie-jo said, My picot edges curl. a bit even though I iron them.. . And it's the same.. That's just it.. . It's just you have to play. with your tension a little bit.. . Maybe do the whole hem at a tighter. . tension than your garment,. not just the front and back.. . Do the whole hem at a tighter garment,. . or do the hem on fewer stitches. like that perfect designer hem.. . All righty, so let me see.. . I am here.. . There is a pretty, pretty also. hem that's Lacy that Tina mentioned.. . Let me Let me see if it's in here.. . If it's not, it should be.. . If not, we'll go here.. . Peekaboo, a window pane lace.. . This one is very pretty.. . So you've got two layers of hem.. . You've got the inside part of your. hem and the outside part of your hem.. . On this one, the inside part of the hem is. knit, scrap and ravel cast on.. . Knit the inside of the part of the hem. . on white plain stock in it,. solid plain stock in it.. . And then transfer the stitches.. . We're going to transfer. the stitches every row.. . So you're going to transfer. every other needle like this.. . You can use your lace carriage.. . I did it by hand.. . So the front side or the public side. of this hem has got holes in it.. . You can call it peekaboo.. . You can see the peekaboo there.. . When you fold it up, hang your hem,. . Fold it up and look at the right side.. There we go.. . The white is peaking from behind.. . So if you've got some good contrasting. colors, that'll really help.. . It also has the picot edge.. . Your turning row is a picot edge.. So it's really.... . This one's a really, really this. one's a really, Really pretty one.. . Thanks for remembering that one, Tina.. . Sherry is saying, Hints on sewing. your side seams at the hem area.. . I couldn't find anything.. . I think there is.. . If there's not, I can create something.. . But the key is thinking of these hem. sections as completely separate sections.. . So if I'm going to join,. . I don't know if I have a bad example here,. but if I'm going to join two hems here,. . you're going to think about sewing. the insides together,. . and then you're going to think about. sewing the other side together.. . It's completely separate.. . You're not sewing that whole hem together.. . You're sewing each section together.. . You're seaming them together,. and that should help.. . If I don't have something,. I'll try and put it in the show notes.. . If I have something, if not,. I will create something sharing.. . Karen says, I do the joining row. about two numbers higher the tension.. . She makes the tension. higher when she's doing her hem.. . Let me get back to hems here.. . After you hang your hem,. . whether you've done an E-Rep cast on or. you're doing scrap and rattle and you've. . hung your hem, you've. got that joining row.. . And what she's saying is she joins. . the joining row about two numbers looser. so that row, you don't have the big divot.. . I wish I had a picture here that I could. . show you with the divots because. you can see them real clearly.. . If we come across one,. I will definitely show it to you.. . So that's an absolutely. great suggestion, Karen.. . The problem with that one is you got. . to remember to turn your attention tension. back to your garment tension when you. . continue knitting, because I don't. know if anybody else has done that.. . But I've loosened up my tension to knit. that final row of my hem and then just. . knit the rest of the garment. at the looser tension.. . And the whole thing was. like, talk about frog it, of course.. . Tina says she uses mattress stitch,. . a whole stitch starting. from the inside and then the outside.. . It's one of those things,. again, you just have to try it.. . Christopher says, Been there,. forget to turn your attention, right?. . Going to go, I'm going to be really. clever, and I'm going to make this is. . a really loose row or maybe. a really loose marker row, right?. . So you do a really loose marker row,. and then you forget,. . and you just knit the whole rest. of the thing at the wrong tension.. . It happens.. . It happens, happens, happens.. . All righty.. . So in that classroom is a lot. . of inspiration for some different hems. and trim And I'm going to make sure. . that peekaboo, window pane,. lace one is in that classroom when. . we're done here, because that should. be their window pane lace.. . We'll make sure that's in the classroom. so that you can get to it.. . And I also will have show notes. here right where you're at now.. . There'll be listing of all the things. we've talked about here,. . the different places where I'm. pointing and waving my hands around.. . You'll be able to and go exactly. to where we're looking at here.. . Joan says, I've done it too many times.. . No, haven't we all?. All righty.. . If you want some more inspiration for hems. . and trim and all kinds of fun. things, we have two ebooks.. . And I know ebooks aren't as popular as. . they once were, but we. do have these two ebooks.. . These are based on an old Bonnie Triola. book that she wrote many, many years ago.. . We broke it into two books,. . so you've got single bed and double bed,. and you've got lots of tips and techniques. . and different kinds of hems and edges and. trims that you can try in these two books.. . Machine knit, trims and edges for the main. . bed and machine knit trims. and edges for the ribber.. . So you want some more inspiration,. those two books will really be helpful.. . They're in our store.. . I'll put links in the show notes.. . Peekaboo is there?. Great.. . Save me some time this afternoon.. . Did I call it Peekaboo, Hope?. . Or window pain?. . Tina says, Sherry,. . just be careful when tensioning the. mattress stitch just in that turning area.. . And. . I was thinking, I don't know whether you. start at the hem and work around or. . which way you go from inside. to out or outside to in.. . I don't know that it really matters.. Got to try it.. . Got to try it.. . All righty.. . So not so fancy and also an orphan child. . of machine knitting, as far as. I'm concerned, is mock ribbing.. . I've always had a really bad attitude. about mock ribbing for some reason.. . I don't know why.. . But more than likely, it's because I've. always done mock ribbing one by one.. . So mock ribbing is basically where you. would knit your hem on alternate needles.. . You would leave some needles out of work.. . By leaving those needles out of work,. you're creating ladders,. . and those ladders give you the impression. of it being pearl stitches,. . which gives the whole thing. the impression of being ribbing.. . So mock ribbing is very popular,. . especially if you don't have a ripper or. you don't hand knit and you still want. . that look of ribbing,. you can try mock ribbing.. . But my suggestion is try. a different needle arrangement.. . So instead of one by one,. . which is the one on the right here,. try two by one,. . which is the one in the center, or three. by one, which is really my favorite.. . The thing with mock ribbing is it doesn't. . stretch like ribbing,. which can be good or not.. . If you want stretch, got to use ribbing.. . If you don't want stretch,. . you just want the appearance of it, use. mock ribbing and just knit it as a hem.. . You're knitting over,. leaving some needles out of work. . and hanging a hem,. just like you would any other hem.. . So mock ribbing, get over it, Sue.. . Just try mock ribbing and see what you. think, and you might really like it.. . And I don't want to discourage. you from trying it.. . Cheri said it still. . looks bumpy, so it just needs some. practice there, I think Cheri.. . Actually, I've actually seen knitters. who don't even seam the inside of the hem,. . just seam the outside where you can. see it and leave the inside loose.. . I have actually seen that.. . A little bit less bulk, if you don't mind,. if you open up your shirt and your sweater. . and you've got a seam. there that isn't finished.. . But on the inside of that hem,. . if you don't sew it,. it doesn't have as much bulk.. . So that's a thought.. . So another thing with hems,. no matter what method you use,. . whether it's. a hung hem or. . a ribbing or any of the other pretty hems,. picot hems, or a chained hem, for example.. . Think about curving your hems.. . Adding a little bit of designer touch. to your garments is a curved hem.. . Sorry, there we go.. . You can see in the image on the right. there, you've got the side seams curved.. . You could also just curve the front. edges of a vest, for example.. . Now, there really is There's. no formula for creating curves.. . We don't have a tool, but I do have. in the learning library curved hems.. . I believe it's in that. course, in that classroom.. . Let me look.. . In the classroom, there is a curved. hem classroom itself, actually.. . And it talks about how. do you chart curved hems.. . Because But you don't. really want a straight line.. . So you could use the magic formula. and create a straight line.. . You really want a nice gentle curve,. . like at the front of a vest. or for a shirt tail hem.. . So there is really no formula for that.. . A couple of ways to do. it is to use graph paper.. . And let's see if you can see this.. . You can use short rows. to create create a curve, a slight curve,. . or you could use graph paper and just. chart it out so that you have your. . knitting instructions based on the. little squares of the graph paper.. . That's probably the easiest. way to get a nice, nice curve.. . So we have that information. . in that classroom, in the curved hems. classroom, and I'll put a link to that.. . And of course, you can. chart it in software as well.. . You can use Cotianile software,. . or you could use design in it. and chart your own curved hems.. . But curved hems are a nice,. nice way of adding a little designer touch. . to and getting away. from the ribbing and square hems.. . Christopher says, I've been knitting men's. shirts, button up,. . and looking for non-feminine hems. that are nice, but I knit for myself.. . Mock ribbing and curved hems. may be an option for you.. . Absolutely.. Mock ribbing would look great.. . If you don't want that pulling. . in of ribbing, mock ribbing. would work well for you.. . You could also look at,. how about a reverse stocking at hem?. . I believe we have that in that class room.. . Let me go here.. . Reverse hung hem.. . Maybe I didn't name it that.. . So it looks like garter stitch.. . So you do the one side of your. hem and then remove turn, rehang.. . So you have the perl side facing.. . So on the outside of the garment,. I've got it here.. . Doc, gone it, Sue.. . There's the peekaboo hem, is there?. . Okay.. . How about faux garter stitch hems?. . In this case, I've got a textured. stitch pattern for my sweater.. . So, Christopher, it's something that you. . probably are doing some. texture for your sweaters.. . And if you don't want to stock. in that hung hem, you can do a hung hem,. . but just reverse the work so. that the perl side is facing you.. . And it gives a nice texture. to that to that hem.. . It's hard to catch in the videos.. . Just watched a worm trim video.. . It was nice, too, but again, a little. bit feminine and nice for a blanket.. . Worm trim is a little. bit feminine, I agree.. . How about just using eye cord?. . Just knit yourself some eye cord,. . hang that eye cord on the machine,. and start netting.. . And then you've got a nice, finished edge.. . You could use the eye cord for the. turning row of a hung hem as well.. . Just a skinny little eye cord,. . hang it on the needles, and just knit. away, and you've got it right in there.. . Karen said, Twisty. trims by Trisha Edwards.. . Never came around to trying one of these.. . Beautiful, but probably time. consuming and rather feminine.. . Twisty trims.. . Karen, if you have a copy of that book,. if you could put that up in our Bookshelf. . and let people know that it's. there unless it already is.. . Let me see if it is.. Twisty trims.. . We'll go to our shop,. . go to our Machine Knitter's Bookshelf,. and let's see if it's there.. . No.. . So if you have a copy of that one,. . take a picture of the cover and add it. to the Machine Knitter's Bookshelf,. . and then we can all enjoy. trying to find a copy of it,. . because a lot of times it's hard to find. these things that are out of print.. . Yeah, no lacy hem for the guys.. . I get it.. . You can always garter stitch. or What's the every other needle one?. . Seed stitch by hand and then. hang that edge up on the machine.. . That's an idea.. . You could also do a tuck stitch every. . other needle, every other two rows, every. two rows, every other needle tuck stitch.. . That looks a little bit like seed stitch.. . So that's an idea as well for a hem.. . Remember, tuck stitch is. always wider than stockinette.. . So if you're going from tuck stitch. . to stockinette, you're. going to have a problem.. . You're going to need less. needles for that hem.. . But that's the thought is tuck stitch.. . I do love iCord, Matt.. . Icord as a turning row,. and But if I were to think about it. . in another color, in a second color,. that would be really interesting.. . All righty.. . Okay, so let's get back here to.... . I don't think we have too much more here.. Oh, wrong one.. . There we go.. . Okay, so ditch the ribbing.. . Explore hems.. . Try hems in the classroom,. the hem classroom.. . And the challenges, I'll be publishing. more about the challenges here soon.. . I do want you to try some of these things.. . Think about, well, this idea about iCord. at the hem sounds like a good idea.. . Maybe it's not until you actually try it.. . It might be a little. too stiff or whatever.. . And who wants to knit miles of iCord?. I don't know.. . Just a thought.. . So try these things.. . Try these things, try these things.. . Okay.. . Well, until next time in August,. we'll be here with Susan.. . And this week, in two weeks, two Saturdays. from now, we'll be doing our office hours.. . So I hope you can join. us for office hours.. . If you can't join us time-wise,. time is always a problem.. . We do them Saturday mornings.. . We do have replays on the office hours.. . And anything else going on?. . Please let me know anything you need.. . Use the Office Hours. link there, knititnow.. . Com/officehours.. . There's a link to send us suggestions.. . That goes to a special little bucket it so. that I can see what people are asking. . and what you're looking for and. suggestions that you're making.. . I'm always looking for ideas.. . I'm currently thinking of putting together. a little advisory group,. . a handful of knitters, to help me figure. out where Knit It Now is going next.. . Told you I want to take some time off. . in July, and part of that time is going. to be spent figuring out what Knit It Now,. . the next years,. are going to be for Knit It Now.. . And it's all based on what you need and we. can help you become a better knitter.. . So whatever you need, please let us know.. . And Matt, did we do the map?. . I almost forgot again.. . And Matt did remind me to thank everybody. . for being a member, everybody. for your support of Knit It Now.. . Again, it's been years.. . We're so excited.. . Every time we do one of these,. I'm so excited to visit with everybody. . and share something and get. the old creative juices going.. . Let's see if we got a map.. . There's the map.. . All right.. . Anybody else?. Anything else?. . Anything that I missed, that I forgot?. . Good.. Thank you, Matt.. . Until next time, everybody.. . We did record today.. . Thank goodness, I did hit. the record button, so we're good.. . The video should be,. the replay should be up soon.. . It takes a couple of hours,. but it'll be up sooner than later.. . So until next time.. Happy Nitty, everybody.. . Stay in summer place, stay warm.. . If you're in the winter, and get some. knitting done and try some things.. . Happy knitting..